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Big Grin toshiba gurus share ur experiences please...thanks...by the way toshiba not coheba...



DUMMIETEK...back by popular demand...313 r u around...lol...like the new avatar... Cool1
 
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Did you mean Cohiba. Personally I think Cohiba's are over rated and over priced. I can find similar or better cigars for half that of a Cohiba.
Right now my favorite smoke is a Sun Grown Rocky Patel for about $5.50...well $6.25 since Mr. Change passed the SCHIP tax....A$$HOLE!

Sitting here as I type puffing away on an Acid Cold Tea Infusion....AHHHHHH!

As for the Toshibas. I go back to the analog BD days. Always thought they were junky, cheap feel. The eStudio mids are okay and my experience with higher volume is limited to the re-badged Sharp 651 and 810. They were most certainly GARBAGE!
The CQ after a PM was good....for about 20K. Every friggin mod done, drum current set to spec (yes it was adjustable) and still crappy CQ compared to a KM6230. They had a weak and convoluted cleaning unit recycling system. Like the Mita DC3060, a REQUIREMENT to empty every service call. Fusers were horrid, nothing short of painful to rebuild every 150-250K even though the yield was 460K. Didn't matter if you used OEM or Katun kits.
No fuser lamps, they used a heating element, the web was very ineffective at cleaning causing most of the fuser issues as the upper claws would destroy the UFR.
Other than that, the feed systems were solid, ADF was great on the finisher was so/so as the stapler was crappy and the rail system for the saddle stitch was cumbersome.
All said I can't wait to work on their color line Big Grin.
Z


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the classes are better than kyocera, all week is hands on, dissasmbling and assembling back all units, at the end is a open book test and also a trobleshotting test with 3 bugs.. if you dont fix 2 bugs probably you fail the course... thats what i remember from my last course like 5 years ago.
i dont sell toshiba anymore since is not a dealer friendly company, sooner or later they will screw you... so be carefull! and good luck!
 
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Yeah I miss the days of actually tearing stuff apart, better manuals and troubleshooting bugs, I remember one Ricoh class (Phoenix series) 2 written tests, one was 25 questions on signal tracing alone!


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313z...i stand corrected..cohiba it is...lol..i still enjoy that freaking cigar but as u know is very $$$$xpensive...i decided to settle for montecristo, not bad @ all...regarding the toshiba training- it sounds quite interesting. i can wait to check out the training scheme kyo is going to use for the new boxes...


DUMMIETEK...BOSSES.can the winners of the sushi trip get a raise?ur answer here...dont give me, oh the have a job thats the increase... Cool1
 
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I remember in the 90's they sent you a study guide that you had to complete before you enrolled for the class, then on the first morning of the class you had to pass a pre-test
to stay in the class. Every class I went to at
least one poor soul got sent home. I hope they have changed that policy.
 
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I went to a two week class back in the middle 90s, they gave you a pretest study guide that included ohms law and all of the basic electronic formulas that I had forgoton in Electronic Class. I was forced into remembering all of these and there were some simple questions on the machine that I was going to school on, like paper capacity. When I got to class they pulled out the test and the test consisted all simple questions. I did a ton of extra preperation to make sure I was not sent home on the plane. The final test was simple and the bugs were fairly easy to find and to troubleshoot.
 
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the new color boxes are going to require special kind of troubleshooting skills, i hope that everyone is up to the new challenges ahead...



DUMMIETEK...i wonder if... Cool1 keith has upgraded his troubleshooting handbook...
 
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I have 17 years of Toshiba training and have attended more courses than I care to remember. They usually lasted 4 to 5 days and most courses had a hands on trouble shooting test on the last day. However, you were graded on your explanation of troubleshooting techniques, not your actual success with with the copier itself. The instructors that I had were absolutely obsessed with seeing to it that no one ever got 100%. For them, it was more about proving they were right, than actually giving you valuable knowledge. I also found their unwavering faith in towing the Toshiba company line to be disgusting and completely counter productive. They would never admit to any wrong doing.

As for product, the 2550, 3550, 4550 from the mid nineties was was their best product. Easy to fix, with lots of simple easy access to fine tune the machines. Copy quality was outstanding. By using developer and toner, the blacks were more solid than any machine I have ever seen. The e-Studio line that debuted in the late nineties was absolute garbage. There was a 26 page handout on how to fine tune the washed out solids! I still work on most Toshibas built from the 1980's to 2000 but to this day I refuse to work on any e-Studios.
 
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Oh Good, a 1980's Toshiba guy. I'm looking for a drum, drum blade and developer for my BD-4511.
I don't want an old drum that's been sitting on the shelf forever. Hey, if it's not broke , don't fix it. This machine makes the blackest copies you've ever seen. Plus it'll copy on the back of a business card.
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Good luck and may the schwartz be with you.
 
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