It would be so nice to use the internet browsers built in to the newer copiers as a way to open Kyocera Command Center for that device and make quick changes without asking to use an end-user's PC or lugging my laptop in. It almost works now, except for trying to log in and getting stopped at the password entry.

Now that would actually give a useful purpose for that little toy application.

Dang that's a good suggestion Chris!
I can't believe I've never tried that.

Does local loopback work? (127.0.0.1)

And, while you are at it Dear Kyocera, why don't you give it the ability to download its own firmware and let the admin or tech (etc.) choose when to do the upgrade ( kinda like windows?)

That's a good thought Rob (for the firmware updates), but I've come to understand through Sharp training that although this is possible (theoretically), there are severe consequences that could arise from "automatic" firmware updating or letting a network administrator perform the update. For instance, let's say you allow "auto" updating or administrator updating and during an update procedure, someone comes along and turns the copier off. Now you have a dead machine. I beleive the theory behind "requiring a service tech onsight" for updating is simply to prevent this scenario or scenarios of the like. Once it was explained to me that way, I certainly understood their reluctance in allowing "auto" updates and such. I wonder if there's a similar reason for not allowing access to the command center through copier interface...?? Maybe to prevent a "Non-network" user (such a rep from a competitor) to just stroll by and reak havok within the command center??? Just brainstorming with ya! I haven't even seen any of these "new" kyocera boxes.

The new Canon ImageRunner "Advance" series allow you to do this via an open gateway to Canon's site. I think Canon charges the use of the site plus I don't think many IT Admin's want that kind of "insecurity" in their security. I'd rather have control over it myself anyways.

Dan, the update would still, in my imagination, be executed manually, by a tech or a key-op. Possibly through simulation? but still the machine would download the updates all by it's onesies, to be executed at a later date. It is just the thought of a lazy wanderer who has, in the past, sucked a perfectly usable USB stick unto a carwash vacuum cleaner during his lunch break

That's hilarious Rob. I hear ya bro! But there must be some reason why they don't do it... and that which I explained was the best I've heard so far. Just sharing.

I'm feeling silly now.

I have a TaskAlfa in shop today that I tried this once again with. I managed to get past the login screen (but I had to enter the password twice for some reason) and was able to fully access Kyocera Command Center. Did a full configuration of SMTP and added monthly email meter report, did the test of the server, and all worked as it should.

I'm thinking the difference might be if DHCP is active (I think the others I tried on were static IP's). I just entered the IP of the copier and went to work.

Chris - did you try local loopback (127.0.0.1)?

If it works with that it shouldn't require a network connection at all to configure everything (which would be FANTASTIC).

We've been setting them up so they email their own meter readings in - but that's a pain doing it through the network....

I will disconnect the net cable and give the loopback address a try tomorrow.

Edit: Tried it. 127.0.0.1 works but only if the network cable is connected up. I tried shutting down, disconnecting, and starting again and the browser would just error out with the loopback address until I reconnected the net cable.

In summary, this appears to work only if the device is connected on a network. The devices assigned IP address can be used if DHCP is on or if all the DNS info is entered and correct if using static IP. The loopback address of 127.0.0.1 will work OK also, but the net cable must also be connected.

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Good to know - I wonder if my network analyzer (or even just a switch) would work or if it needs to pull an IP address...,.

Yeah, not even the internal address (169.254.100.100) works when the network is unplugged. I guess it disables the httpd server when there is no network.