Has anyone had success using Gmail's SMTP server for scan to email? My customer is using the enterprise email service from Gmail.

I have tried
Gmail,hotmail,yahoo smtp servers and have not
had any luck with getting any of them to scan

I haven't actually tried this for Gmail, but it is my preferred solution for relaying email to a mail server that is outside of the local network.

Download the freeware version of ArGoSoft email server from here.

You only need to set it up to relay email. It must be running on a PC whenever scanning to email is done, and the PC you are running it on is the SMTP server you will point the scan system to. You do have to create at least one user account in ArGoSoft in order for it to work

Chris,
Could this argo soft relay to Gmail or
any other offsite smtp server.
like- smtp.gmail.com

quote:

Originally posted by Chris L:
I haven't actually tried this for Gmail, but it is my preferred solution for relaying email to a mail server that is outside of the local network.

Download the freeware version of ArGoSoft email server from here.

You only need to set it up to relay email. It must be running on a PC whenever scanning to email is done, and the PC you are running it on is the SMTP server you will point the scan system to. You do have to create at least one user account in ArGoSoft in order for it to work

Yes it should. It is a full SMTP and POP server (if basic in features) and as such relays email to the internet. It does not need to be configured to connect to smtp.gmail.com, it just sends the email addressed to gmail.com out and it gets there in the normal fashion, just like Exchange would if it were running on your local network.

You don't need to configure accounts for all users and connect with any email clients, but you could if you wished. In this case you are just using this as your SMTP server for the scanner only, and it relays it to Gmail so the end user does not have to change any email configuration.

I use this mail server on our showroom for demoing since we purposely do not have an internet connection (or server, it's a peer setup) to keep customers from playing too much on the showroom's PC. I also have customers using it to relay to email servers they use outside of their LAN to simplify setup. The server on the WAN can be reconfigured all they want, as long as it still uses the same domain suffix it will continue to work.

I too have used ArgoSoft for several years when SMTP is a problem. Be sure to open port 25 on the workstation (or server) you set it up on.

You can also install the SMTP service that ships with Windows XP Professional (Home version doesn't have it), but it is harder to setup than ArgoSoft's product.

Scoful
have you had argo soft working with gmail before ?
I have tried and not getting it work. My
email knowlege is not that good.
could you copy and pasted here a working setup
of the argo soft relay

ArgoSoft's product is completely independent - it is it's own mail server. Since it is installed on the LAN you don't have to do anything on their WAN firewall or router, but you do have to make sure that the SMTP port (or the ArgoSoft program) has an exception rule on the workstation it is installed on. If they are using Windows Firewall this is very easy, but some other security packages (McAfee, Norton etc.) have different ways to go about this.
Be sure to check the "Allow Relay" box in the 'Options' dialogue. Do not require authentication (the LAN's firewall will prevent any unauthorized relaying). Be sure to designate the DNS server (type 'IPCONFIG /all' at a command prompt to get this information from the workstation you are installing it on).
Set the scan system SMTP server address to the Host name of the workstation you installed ArgoSoft Mail on (if the workstation is set to static - which would be better - use the address instead). If you don't know the host name, right click on 'My Computer' and select 'Properties' then the 'Computer Name' tab. The 'Full computer name' is what you need.
If the computer is on a Domain you will probably need to omit the domain suffix (ie: billscomputer.bill.local would just be billscomputer). Again, static addressing would be better, but this may not be an option for you.

I am hoping that future machines will have an embedded SMTP server option, since they have hard drives in them already. This would make them much more plug and play. Since the Falcon III is Linux based, this would be very easy for them to do.

Gmail's SMTP requires a secure connection (TLS aka SSL), and I haven't seen any Kyocera machine support that, although I didn't stare at the Falcon 3 options very long.

smtp.gmail.com error: "530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first"

aragul,
I think you are correct, I cant get argo soft
to forward to gmail or hotmail both of them are rejecting when argo soft is sending to them

quote:

Originally posted by aragul:
Gmail's SMTP requires a secure connection (TLS aka SSL), and I haven't seen any Kyocera machine support that, although I didn't stare at the Falcon 3 options very long.

smtp.gmail.com error: "530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first"

This must be a new anti-spamming technique.

The problems we're going to be seing with this is that they're going to want all SMTP server communications to be signed, so you'll have to outbound through a server that has an Certificate.
Of course, there are ways around this, so it will only slow the spammers down - and flat out prevent legitimate uses like what we are trying to do.

What are they using for an ISP?

Does their ISP have an SMTP server you can authenticate with?

If not, they either need their own mail server that can provide SSL (Like Exchange) or they need at least one email account with a company that allows standard (non-ssl) authenticated communication.
If they have a web site that is not hosted by their ISP they may have SMTP services through it, but many ISP's are blocking port 25 communications if the SMTP server is outside of their network (or not their SMTP server specifically). Some may lift the block if requested, others may simply redirect to a different port (so all you have to do is change the number on the scan system and have the Host change the SMTP port on their side if they will).

I really wish Kyocera would come out with a Launch Utility like Sharp and some others use - it would be a modification to the 'Scan to File' utility that would automatically launch your email client and attach the file to a new email. This really wouldn't be difficult.

As a matter of fact, maybe I should write one in VisualBasic Express that will scan a directory for new files and do this. I don't think it would be too hard. I let you guys know if I can get it going if anybody's interested.

Sound like a good IDEA scoful. But for us humans, please explain how. I have used gmail on a falcon 3, because SSL is needed. However, it does no always work. Good luck. Maby we should all change to Konica Minolta.
scoful ME!