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I have a PF750 attached to a 5050 and when paper is loaded on the right side only, it emits a terrible chattering noise when the paper is conveyed to the left side. I've replaced the feed clutch on the right feed assy. and cleaned the feed pulleys.

I'm also going to order the actual housing due to one broken plastic tab that holds the left feed assembly.

Anyone else experience this? Thanks
 
Posts: 62 | Location: California | Registered: February 08, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This was brought up in our meeting today, we are bringing in a pf750 that is noisy monday, and going to take it apart. I will let you know what we find. I know we arnt the only ones with this problem
 
Posts: 85 | Registered: August 10, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The chattering noise is caused by a broken plastic tab. The tab holds down a narrow plate which I think is attatched to the left side feed assy. For reference the right side feed has a similar tab, which usually does not break off. I have fixed a couple of these units by drilling a hole thru the 2 metal plates and securing them down with a screw, lockwasher and nut. The screw should be mounted with the head on the bottom side of the feed unit. It is best to use a screw that has a low profile rounded head so paper won't catch on the screw head. We have tried to replace the entire plastic assy but the tab just breaks off again. Once it is fixed with the screw we have not any repeat problems.
 
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Hmmm. Haven't tried the screw thing. Next time I'll try it because replacing the base is a pain in the a%*.
 
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Ive found that if you take out the feed clutches and give them a good cleaning that can sometimes resolve the chattering issue. Usually this is the case for customers in dirty environments
 
Posts: 14 | Registered: January 30, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I replaced the housing a few weeks ago because of the broken tab and resolved the problem. It was a pain the switch everything over the to new housing though.
 
Posts: 62 | Location: California | Registered: February 08, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Do any of you's know the name of this plastic tab? I am having the same problem at a lawyer's account and am scratching my head...
Thanks
Bob
 
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I think the plastic tab is part of the black plastic casting of the feed head that slides in above the two paper trays. I've had them break off on the PF-75. I used a big glob of plasticweld and both units are still running fine. Not an elegant solution but nobody can see it but me. Smile
 
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Thanks for the info, I will have to pick up a tube of plastic weld and see if that helps.
 
Posts: 50 | Registered: April 24, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I spoke with Kyocera Customer service about this issue also. The design of this unit is different from the older one with the addition of one clutch. The torque on the plastic tab seems to be too much when feeding from the right side. I have a unit setting right next to me as I write this. I anyone needs pictures let me know.(I don't have my camera right now). Please make sure we are reporting this to out Kyocera reps and to The hotline and to customer service. Only with the proper paper trail can we get Kyocera to issue a fix. I suggested an exchange for the unit since I don't believe it is right for a field tech to have to replace the base unit. Too much labor involved.


KJG relic tech......
 
Posts: 111 | Location: Middle of Nowhere | Registered: March 29, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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KJG Pictures, please. I'm unclear on exactly where you're sending me. Thanks a ton for the help!


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Posts: 293 | Location: OREGON | Registered: March 02, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Modified an assembly today using the procedure J.D. was describing by drilling thru the static plate and metal mount for the clutch shaft and placing a small screw with nut in the drilled hole and securing. It took all of 12 minutes to do both sides of the assembly. Make sure you have no plastic shaving so the screw head fits as close to the body as it can. Used a battery operated screwdriver with hex drill bit and it didn't take anytime at all. The metals are not hardened at all. Down and dirty and better than new. Thanks JD.
 
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Originally posted by J.D. POWER:
KJG Pictures, please. I'm unclear on exactly where you're sending me. Thanks a ton for the help!


Did you ever get the pictures for this problem and if so could you please send me a copy. I'm having the same problem. Thank You !! Lanning
 
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I found an old post of mine on this. Here is a link:
http://dnet-km.com/eve/forums/...891059703#3891059703

It is from march 26, 2008. I modded all these feeders with a screw in the plate and never saw the problem come back.

You need to drill through the metal plate close to where the tab broke off and then use a small self tapping screw from the bottom ( preferably flat head screw sunk with counter sink. This will avoid any chance of interference with paper feed.

Hope this helps.

I could not find my original pictures since I changed my tower at work...


KJG relic tech......
 
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'll
look for the tab and see if it is cracked. Thanks Again, Lanning
 
Posts: 29 | Registered: August 22, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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We always use a wire-tie to hold the metal grounding plate down when the tab breaks... Takes 5 minutes and no call backs.. Loop it thru a couple of the openings making sure it lies flat on the underside of the feeder unit and you won't have anymore issues..
 
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At our shop, we buy the new base and transfer the parts from the broken unit to the unbroken one. It takes about an hour to hour and a half to make the change, but we know no other tabs will break.

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Posts: 83 | Location: Texarkana | Registered: October 07, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I HAVE DONE THE TYWRAP FIX AT LEAST 50 TIMES WITH NO RECALLS . GOOD LUCK
 
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