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Brand new CS-3035 to be installed at library. Machine set up and made very nice copies. Then put on Binder Minder and now have dark band at lead edge(about 3/8") and rest of copy has gray background. Any thoughts as to where I messed up? Confused
And yes, I have a call in to Binder Minder, just no return call yet. Frown
Thanks,
copierdude
 
Posts: 214 | Registered: February 18, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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What I found to make it work properly was the following:
1. Move white CCD plate on Binder Minder 1/4" to left(when facing machine). Lead Edge Dark Band Gone!
2. Add reflective material(similar to aluminum foil)on both sides of Binder Minder near lead edge. Shadows on lead edge corners gone!
3. Adjust Dev bias to -10. Gray background gone!
Moving the white plate and adding the reflective material was required due to sloppy assembly by Binder Minder. Frown
Dev Bias adj. needed due to original being farther away. On an analog machine expo lamp voltage would be increased instead.
Hope this might save one of you guys/gals some trouble in the future.
copierdude Big Grin
 
Posts: 214 | Registered: February 18, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Anybody using a Binder Minder on the current TA machines. Have one on order for a TA-420i. Never heard of them until the customer called and placed order.
 
Posts: 50 | Location: Fairbanks, AK. | Registered: September 03, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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OK, I give up. WTF is a binder minder?? 23 years in the biz and haven't come across this before. Curious minds want to know....


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Right there with ya...used mainly in librarys to copy books without destroying the binder...hence the name I'm guessing.
http://www.binderminder.com/
 
Posts: 50 | Location: Fairbanks, AK. | Registered: September 03, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I call it bad news. The mirrors #2 & #3 are very poorly attached, and the focus is impossible to restore. On a color scanner the resulting copies and scans are reasonably well focussed at the leading edge and gets worse the further you get toward the trail, with purple background. The letter size image looks OK, but is terrible beyond 14". =^..^=


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Posts: 818 | Location: Michigan | Registered: April 04, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have never seen or heard of that. I have a few 2550's in libraries and schools,I instructed them to leave the lid open and they use a bright white towel, the towel hangs right next to the copier in the supply closet. try it, lay open a thick book on the glass, and drape a white towel over the book, and you get a nice copy without any black edges or center.
 
Posts: 193 | Location: PA | Registered: January 18, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I've done several binder minders and every single one had to be messed with for many man-hours to get it to have decent quality. Copierdude obviously has extensive experience as well. I've had to use shims to shim the binder minder's corners up (not necessarily "level"... but instead, had to shim a corner up, then run copy... compare output... then shim more or shim different corner and repeat process several times... along with messing with all the settings that Copierdude mentioned AND THEN SOME!). These "Binder Minders" are a neat concept to save on book binders but are a technician's nightmare when it comes to getting them installed and working properly.
 
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The customer said she had read many reviews and the Kyocera worked the best with the BM. When she tried to buy one the BM poeple will only sell through an authorized copier dealer, I'm guessing this is to ensure the dealership with techs are on board to address all the issues you guys have brought up. I thought it looked like a simple platen glass exchange...never as easy as it looks, should be getting it this week so will give it a shot. Thanks for the tips.
 
Posts: 50 | Location: Fairbanks, AK. | Registered: September 03, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Anyone with a good fix for this thing. I've spent hours on this thing and still have a C3200 code. I had better luck removing the left upper cover to lower the B-M. But that gave me dark to black copies. Without the original platen glass, the B-M velcroes in the front have nothing to attach to. Can't move them, it would raise the B-M too high. The glass doesn't even get held in place in the front, it just sits there. Any ideas?
 
Posts: 139 | Location: Kansas City | Registered: January 07, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I tried my best to convince the owner not to sell the thing, but he insisted that noone would notice.

To my surprise, noone did! After three years, the customer attempted to make the first color copy. By then this Sharp Whale had collected enough dust in the developing units to create void lines through CMY. No surprise there.

I replace the CMY all-in-one cartridges, then removed the binder minder, did a color calibration, then re-installed the crappy thing. Color copies were decent up to 9" sub-scan, shaded and blurry 9" to 11" sub-scan.

I don't know what to tell you. It's an inferior, retrofit design. It probably worked OK on the analog machines, and somebody thought it could work on digitals. Not so much.


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Posts: 818 | Location: Michigan | Registered: April 04, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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