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I have multiple machines out in the field that leave a light grainy background on both color and black and white copies. Has anyone dealt with this and found a cure? Installed version8 firmware and no help. Color Kyocera's are great way to loose a ton of money on service contracts
 
Posts: 70 | Location: Michigan | Registered: December 08, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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replace the black drum
 
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I swapped main charges between colors to see if the problem followed....and voila it went away entirely. Maybe just a reseating would help.
 
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Correct. Upgrade to ver 8.01. Replace the devs as they cannot be recovered once overtoned (no matter what anyone says) Make sure you set Sim 059 to mode 3 (Fan timing). Tempature is a big cause of backgrounding....
 
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I am having the same problem. The problem is intermittant. I am getting black grainy bands from front to rear. I have replaced the black drum and developer unit. No help. Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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Had a 400 making grainy spots where random toner was being slung around. Upgraded firmware set sim 147 'set operation mode' to a 1 and replaced K dv unit, no return.

Had a 500 doing similar but the more pronounced problem was grey banding from front to rear (not lead to trail) when printing K only, not process black. Everyone and their brother said it was the K drum, swapped with the Y, still had the problem. Replaced transfer belt, no return.

It would REALLY BE NICE if Kyocera would give detailed descriptions on how **** works on these machines so we can quit guessing!!! HELLO! ANY REPS LISTENING????

Ricoh has VERY detailed descriptions on how charging is done, transfer, toners sensors and how they relate to different service modes. How to check service mode voltages and relate them to over or under toning, cause and effect.

Granted Ricohs work a little different with respect to Vsp, Vg, etc, It would be nice if we could access sim XXX sub X and tell that the hell was going on with each color developer, bias, etc and what changes do. Sim 147 has all kinds of useful modes for 'setting for toner applying operation', they are kind enough to give you initial settings and a setting range. Unless I missed the decoder ring at the end of class what the hell does any of this mean?

A detailed description of what everything in sim 147 would be nice since you are suppose to set 'set operation mode' to 1 after flashing firmware 8.0 and above. Ok...WHY?! Tech support or my regional rep telling me this doesn't help explain the cause and effect of the action other than, 'we said do it'.

Am I the only one that thinks the current batch of service manuals aren't worth wiping your ass with? I digress, it may simply be the Japs not wanting us lowly technicians being privy to this information. If so they do us all a disservice (at least those of us that are more than parts swapping monkeys). I'm sure this rant will piss off certain reps that lurk here, sorry, tired of guessing how to fix the current line of color product due to lack of information.

I chuckled when Keith McManus said the Kyoshiba 750 manual was overwritten. Toshiba has some of the better manuals as far as I'm concerned. You can actually sit down and read work flow within circuit board and understand where problems are likely to originate instead of replacing multiple boards and crossing your fingers. No disrespect to Keith, I wish I could spout off half of what he knows without having to gather my thoughts beforehand!

Okay, I'm done

Z


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MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU ARE PUTTING ANY UNITS IN THAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE BOX....

WE HAD A JAPANESE ENGINEER AT OUR OFFICE AND HE SAID THAT IT IS CRUCIAL TO THE INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY OR OTHERWISE THE CQ WILL GET OUT OF WACK.


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HERE HERE dude, Im with ya all the way Thumbs up
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Originally posted by 313ZD:
Had a 400 making grainy spots where random toner was being slung around. Upgraded firmware set sim 147 'set operation mode' to a 1 and replaced K dv unit, no return.

Had a 500 doing similar but the more pronounced problem was grey banding from front to rear (not lead to trail) when printing K only, not process black. Everyone and their brother said it was the K drum, swapped with the Y, still had the problem. Replaced transfer belt, no return.

It would REALLY BE NICE if Kyocera would give detailed descriptions on how **** works on these machines so we can quit guessing!!! HELLO! ANY REPS LISTENING????

Ricoh has VERY detailed descriptions on how charging is done, transfer, toners sensors and how they relate to different service modes. How to check service mode voltages and relate them to over or under toning, cause and effect.

Granted Ricohs work a little different with respect to Vsp, Vg, etc, It would be nice if we could access sim XXX sub X and tell that the hell was going on with each color developer, bias, etc and what changes do. Sim 147 has all kinds of useful modes for 'setting for toner applying operation', they are kind enough to give you initial settings and a setting range. Unless I missed the decoder ring at the end of class what the hell does any of this mean?

A detailed description of what everything in sim 147 would be nice since you are suppose to set 'set operation mode' to 1 after flashing firmware 8.0 and above. Ok...WHY?! Tech support or my regional rep telling me this doesn't help explain the cause and effect of the action other than, 'we said do it'.

Am I the only one that thinks the current batch of service manuals aren't worth wiping your ass with? I digress, it may simply be the Japs not wanting us lowly technicians being privy to this information. If so they do us all a disservice (at least those of us that are more than parts swapping monkeys). I'm sure this rant will piss off certain reps that lurk here, sorry, tired of guessing how to fix the current line of color product due to lack of information.

I chuckled when Keith McManus said the Kyoshiba 750 manual was overwritten. Toshiba has some of the better manuals as far as I'm concerned. You can actually sit down and read work flow within circuit board and understand where problems are likely to originate instead of replacing multiple boards and crossing your fingers. No disrespect to Keith, I wish I could spout off half of what he knows without having to gather my thoughts beforehand!

Okay, I'm done

Z
 
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Originally posted by Doedee316:
MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU ARE PUTTING ANY UNITS IN THAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE BOX....

WE HAD A JAPANESE ENGINEER AT OUR OFFICE AND HE SAID THAT IT IS CRUCIAL TO THE INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY OR OTHERWISE THE CQ WILL GET OUT OF WACK.


DOEDEE316


You mean there's actually some valuable information on that dribble that comes in the box? I can never decide which language I should read..... Wink

313ZD: AGREE 100%

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I GUESS.... HE WAS VERY ANIMATED WHEN HE WAS SHOWING US THIS. IT CAN CAUSE THE CALIBRATION TO GO NUTS..

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just fine Mr. Gazoo
 
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This post is a good read and I see to adjust Sims 59,147 but what is the actual fix for the front to rear frame background banding
 
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Just a question. Does Sim 464 - AC calibration then Sim 412, make a difference????
 
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SACKH have you tried this and was there a positive result because I have another customer with the same issue
 
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