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Has anyone noticed how many prints these machines are getting out of there black toner
 
Posts: 609 | Location: Pa | Registered: August 24, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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toner yield in not good on any of the colors
we are going thru toner like water
 
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The one I am looking at has 52k b&w prints and has gone through 4 black toners
 
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Black yield listed in the TB #1 is 25K prints at 5% coverage. You should be able to get a coverage report out of the device, but it sounds like your coverage is double up around 10%. Color yield is listed at 18K at 5% coverage. If your customer is using these to print out full color photos, the coverage will be well above the 5%.
 
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Cool2new firm can be real helpfull in this situation since the toner carrier ratio changed by a lot...



DUMMIETEK...developer bias is fine tuned... Cool1
 
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I am looking at two machine (Nat. Accounts) That the firmware is up date. The coverage report is at 8% and they are only getting 12-15K out of the black toner. I was wondering if anyone else actually looker at there reports to figure out what it is costing us to supply the customer with toner vs what Kyocera pays us it click charge.
 
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The coverage report is counting digital Dots
and not actual toner use.
We have the newest firmware and going though toner like water and the wait toner bottles filling fast.
 
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Does anyone have any firm data verifying the toner yields on both black & color with these Color TaskAlpha? The cost of toner is a bit more expensive on these models to begin with. I generally factor appx. a 70% yield on all machines, but these models seem to be less than that. And I do understand the coverage reports, etc..to verify yields, just wondering what other dealers are experiencing.
 
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Ballpark what kind of yeild are you getting?
 
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That is why I call them MY Kyocera. They told me that I was the only person in the world that was having customers replacing black toner because the toner light was on. Even though they had only a couple of hundred of black clicks on the counter. Now there is a flash verson to fix my problem.
 
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Todd A. (or anyone else in the know)

Please elaborate on the Toner Usage Report not actually calculating toner usage.

If you have some documentation on this that would be great too.
 
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Cool2webe..reality is , there no real answer to the issue but you can ask the customer if they r using more black by printing black images using "blackonly"or process black using the 3 color to create the image since process black uses less percentage to make that copy or print, what is weird & i have come to conclude base on my own research is that some of my customer use more black toner if they r using strickly black from those who just create images using process black...key thing is the freakin machines run better if they use process black...my boss dont like it because of the clicks but this info is real... but a secret to most people...


DUMMIETEK...i know, i will get in trouble for this... but it is what it is! Cool1
 
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KonicaMinolta had the best solution for this, when the color bizhubs produced black on a color output, they would laydown composite black then just overtone with true black. Those color machines will run circles around the TASKalfas
 
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